Dissolving Drugs in Vegetable Glycerin for Vaping

This is glycerin…

Electronic cigarettes, or eCigs, are shrouded in controversy. The industry says it’s safer than smoking because carcinogens are removed by replacing the plant matter in tobacco with vegetable glycerin, which is then evaporated instead of burned and smoked.

VG is a common food-grade thinning agent used in a variety of foods, including those fast food scrambled eggs served at restaurants, hotels, and cafeterias. It’s also the base for cough syrups, both over-the-counter and prescribed (such as codeine syrup, the active ingredient in sizzurp).


Blowing Smoke

Dosed or not, you can fill an eCig tank with just flavored vegetable glycerin, which will produce smoke, however you won’t get the burn effect in your lungs some smokers crave. This is caused by adding propylene glycol to the mixture. PG is the chemical solution found in theatrical smoke  machines. It’s debatably food grade.

The more PG you add, the more of a burn you’ll get from the vapor, but a max of 20 percent is sufficient. It’s a good idea to skip the PG though, and many vaping connoisseurs do so. Although there are risks of drowning when too much vapor condenses in your lungs, the biggest concern is the PG effect on your body when inhaled over long periods of time.

Dissolving Pharmaceuticals in Glycerin

yep…more glycerin…

Since it’s the base for codeine cough syrup, it stands to reason any drug can be dissolved in vegetable glycerin and either swallowed or vaped (depending on whether or not it needs heat to activate it).

Drugs that can be dissolved in Glycerin include ecstasy, Molly, (both MDA and MDMA), meth and other amphetamines, heroin, codeine, Percocet, ritalin, xanax, acid, DMT, mushrooms, science, or even just muscle relaxers or over-the-counter medications.

In addition, THC and CBD concentrates can be thinned with vegetable glycerin, along with other terpines, to be vaped in an eCig. This is best done prior to letting it set to become shatter or honeycomb wax.

Dissolving Herbs in Glycerin

tiny bottles of…you guessed it…glycerin…

Dissolving tobacco, marijuana nugget, and other herbs  in vegetable glycerin is achieved through a process called steeping, which is how teas are infused. This is best done in a double boiler, which is accomplished by putting the herbs and oil in a jar in a boiling pot, rather than directly on the heat.

Steeping can be used to infuse glycerin with tobacco, cannabis, kief, magic mushrooms, kraton, peyote, ayahuasca,  and more.

With many herbs, you can steep in the sun if you live somewhere with ample lighting.

Warning About Drugs

The above information is in no way meant to teach drug usage. Dosage measurement would need to be carefully regulated to avoid overdose as many drugs are toxic when not used as directed. Do not attempt to actually vaporize any drugs in glycerin unless you understand the risks, and you’re sure you want to…


Brian Penny Whistleblower Weed Police gonzoDr. Brian Penny
is a former Business Analyst at Bank of America turned whistleblower, freelance consultant, and troll. He’s a frequent contributor to The Street, Huffington Post, Cannabis Now, and Fast Company.

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59 thoughts on “Dissolving Drugs in Vegetable Glycerin for Vaping

  • October 20, 2014 at 8:08 am
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    What fucking idiot posts this kind of shit. My brain might have actually just shutdown from the overwhelming amount of disgusting retorics I’d like to call you and not being able to physically come fuck you up. You know how many irresponsible young people use these things and are going to try this shit despite your warning because you fucking wrote about it anyway and posted it. God damn man… No shit you’d be a blogger… You’d be more appreciated/helpful to the world yanking on some fucking udders…

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    • October 20, 2014 at 3:59 pm
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      Do you think people aren’t already doing it? Only a complete moron thinks oppression of words stops thoughts and actions.

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      • August 18, 2016 at 11:10 am
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        As a parent I find all of this information useful.How people of all ages find a way to use drugs with out being detected changes everyday. Using a Vape that has pain killers in it never would have crossed my mind. This information will help me and other parents be aware when we think our kids are using again. No matter what objections anyone has to what’s being written doesn’t matter to this parent or any other parent trying to save their child from addiction and or death. This information is invaluable for parents,siblings and anyone trying to protect the people we love.
        I would like to see a blog about everything that we as parents should know about how our kids are using drugs. Not from a drug expert but from people that have used or are using. from parents or family members who have experienced this heart breaking disease. Help us out. Tell us the signs. Tell us about how deceitful and manipulative our kids will become. Tell us to lock our valuables in a place they won’t be found only to be pawned for pennies of what they are worth to purchase those $60 pills. Tell us what all these pills cost and how they’re being used. The depth they’ll go to to get those pills. What other drugs will these pills lead to? Tell us to pay more attention. I have found this experience I’m still going thru is a mourning process of sorts. You mourn the child you once knew and now need to know in a different light.
        Families are being torn apart and parents are burying children at an alarming rate. Use your knowledge and experience to help others understand.

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        • August 22, 2016 at 3:15 pm
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          Thank you Donna for this beautiful comment. When I put information out there, I don’t in any way control who uses the information and how. While some people may be looking for ways to get high, others are looking for ways to stop them. At the end of the day I’m a journalist, and this is something that’s real and happening every day all over the world. I’ve seen some of it myself in travelling around and attending drug conferences and trade shows or hanging out with users. I know it’s widespread because I wrote the article and I can see how many people search for each individual keyword. There are a lot of people interested and a lot of people read this article. I don’t have a particular issue with drugs, but I’ve seen people abuse them and go downhill, so I’m glad there are people who care out there. Everything in balance and I hope it works out for you.

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    • December 11, 2015 at 2:31 am
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      Your argument is based off the logical fallacy “think of the children” where you assume all young people are a vulnerable and gullible demographic whom are fully susceptible to media, internet, and availability of products. It is infantile, stupid, and I really hate the people that think this way. Politicians enjoy using this argument to push their own faulty agendas like all the liberal politicians trying to ban e cigarette flavors based on the childish assumption that anything that is an e juice with any flavor sounding remotely delicious is explicitly meant to market to children somehow and has nothing to do with adults college age and older having a set of functioning taste buds. No the articles like this arent going to drive anyone to combine drugs with e juice, but maybe people who vape and use drugs will try it on their own volition because the thought crossed their minds.. We cannot restrict information because of certain people with the disposition to use drugs exist, or because of social paranoia its just disgustingly stupid. just like tobacco marketing wont force children without the disposition to use cigarettes in the first place to smoke, neither will these articles. So kindly fuck yourself and stop polluting the internet with your commonplace logical fallacy, you sound like those 90’s moms that tried to ban violence in video games.

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      • November 19, 2016 at 12:59 pm
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        Your mind is so “BRADY BUNCH” if you dont think that children in todays world are influnced by the media, news, commercials, even the fucking kardashians are going too entertain your childrens mind far greater than you your wife your neighbor, or your local church minister. Wake up we all have lost are children too a certain extent. It all started with exploration of the mind LSD, then too 714 lemons, mushrooms, payote, weed. Well that experiment could only take us so far, now its molleys, meth,herion,crack,xanax,xtesy, and hundreds and hundreds more. We are all sponges its all depending on what you want to sponge up

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    • April 1, 2016 at 1:09 pm
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      You should try this and change your altitude. Very bad joojoo….you could have said the same thing but nicer. And we wonder why children bully. Because they are taught by people like you.

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    • December 27, 2016 at 2:57 pm
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      Your a stupid idiot don’t reproduce

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    • January 14, 2017 at 5:17 pm
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      You’re just mad because knowledge is power. When you have knowledge greedy people can’t rape you if every penny you work hard for. You don’t care about kids or you wouldn’t have called them idiots. You seem like the type of person that if anyone stands up to you, you would attack their children, and blow them up with your pathetic feelings. May God have Mercy on your soul. Lol Smoke that fucker?

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    • February 18, 2017 at 11:37 pm
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      Wow what a dumb fuck you must be! If the kids you are on about are inclined to take said drugs at least vaping them is less harmful than smoking them. Your stupidity is hilarious at least have a dull day dick head xxx

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  • December 31, 2014 at 5:47 am
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    “The more PG you add, the more vapor you get…” Ummm, no. You are an idiot.

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    • December 7, 2015 at 1:15 pm
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      Dude it says the VG will produce the vapors, and PG just gives the throat burning sensation!!!! Really try reading before commenting then looking and sounding like an ass!!!!

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    • January 26, 2016 at 4:29 am
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      He did not say that moron.

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    • February 18, 2017 at 11:41 pm
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      He’s rite your wrong I manufacture e liquid by the way

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  • February 11, 2015 at 9:34 pm
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    Such an overwhelming amount of wrong information in this article /smh

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  • February 12, 2015 at 1:38 am
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    Where do you get your facts from? VG increases vapor production in e-cigs, not PG. You can literally go to Wal-Mart, buy 100% VG, put it in your atomizer, and blow “smoke.” Irresponsible article is irresponsible.

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    • May 14, 2015 at 12:59 pm
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      You get more smoke with PG in it. I use pure VG and I barely get a cloud. My friend uses 70/30 VG/PG and his clouds will fill the car and stick around for a bit.

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      • June 11, 2015 at 5:15 pm
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        In all likelihood, your friend is using a better vaporizer/coil. In ‘cloud blowing’ competitions, they use 100% VG for a reason. I have used all sorts of different mixes and the higher the VG, the denser the cloud. That is true all the way up to 100% VG. It is irresponsible to propagate the knowledge of what drugs are soluble in VG as well. If you were just talking marijuana I would understand because it is used by millions for medicinal purposes. The argument of ‘people are doing it anyways’ is a horrible excuse and does not justify making the information that much more available.

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  • October 27, 2015 at 6:21 am
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    If someone is really going to do this, they hopefully already know of the many resources online to get the information they need to do it correctly. But if they aren’t that resourceful, and they get the idea here, they should also be informed of a couple of other small details related to some science. yes, that inconvenient thing.

    Some of the drugs you mentioned are commonly salts. that means they are solid and won’t readily dissolve in those solvents you mention. You need to make them freebases. Seek methods elsewhere, kiddos, the information is out there. That way, the freebase oil will dissolve in your carrier oil. But many of those drugs listed, likely groveling for search engine rankings, will give you quite a time to separate from binders in prescription pills, before you can convert to the freebase. And with some quantities, it’s not trivial, in other words, it’s hard! Have fun!

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    • October 27, 2015 at 3:35 pm
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      Such snark for some random asshole afraid to use his real name online. Writing is my career, but commenting is just something you do when groveling for attention.

      This piece is meant as a general overview to answer the question that yes you can vape all those drugs. It’s absolutely possible. I’m not providing recipes. If you’re such a valuable genius in this world, you provide the recipes and post your link here. We both know you won’t because you’re a coward who’s afraid of getting in trouble. What a loser.

      So unless you’re willing to man up, keep your attitude to people who care – which you won’t find here, dipshit.

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  • November 1, 2015 at 2:45 am
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    I used a persons vape juice that i borrowed, without asking, out of their dresser drawer. It made my nose itch like crazy and i felt like I was on an opiate, maybe even heroine high. Is it possible to make vape juice with heroin in it?

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    • November 1, 2015 at 3:56 am
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      Opiates in vegetable glycerin is what codeine syrup is. You can directly vape codeine syrup or dissolve opiates into vegetable glycerin. It’s not out of the realm of possibility.

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      • February 11, 2017 at 10:48 pm
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        Codeine phosphate is a salt and will not disolve in glycerine nor will it vaporiZE easily.

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        • February 18, 2017 at 11:45 pm
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          I think you could but there would be no point as you can’t smoke codiene tho you can convert codiene into diaccetylmorphine in a home lab but sadly I haven’t the skills to do so 🙁

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  • November 10, 2015 at 2:28 pm
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    Interesting prospect for deliver of a med, at least in
    relation to marijuana. I have no interest in as making a
    batch of free base crack e-juice, Do You?

    That said, as a 30 year smoker that used vaping to quit
    smoking, articles and comments below seem somewhat irresponsible.
    The powers that be would have us all using crappy vuse and
    blu ecigs only, saying we as a people can’t be trusted
    to use a tank we can refill, cause drugs are bad mkay…….

    At least support HR 2058 and protect the best thing we have
    to quit smoking, and keep vaping out of the choking grip
    of the FDA, hasn’t the FDA done enough over reaching to last
    10 lifetimes already.

    We are not in the times when the vaults of the erowid
    were born, no, nowadays the trendies really like telling
    people what they can and can’t do. Just some random
    food for thought.

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    • November 10, 2015 at 3:17 pm
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      The technology is already out there, and there’s no way the government is taking it away. It’s Chinese technology and all of it is imported and rebranded in the US. What people choose to put in their ecig is their business. I don’t question it any more than I question what’s in their gel caps or their rolling papers. I don’t see any irresponsibility whatsoever. I don’t have that fear you appear to be crippled by and believe information should be free.

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    • November 10, 2015 at 3:20 pm
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      If you really want to know my beliefs, I believe it’s irresponsible to say marijuana is ok, but all other drugs are bad. That’s beyond irresponsible and becomes uneducated. I don’t choose to promote a drug as curing cancer when there’s absolutely no scientific evidence, and I certainly don’t hold any drug in higher esteem than another. You need to educate yourself and stop trying to provide food for thought to others.

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  • November 14, 2015 at 10:17 pm
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    I put some meth in my E-cigarette liquid and why do feel like I’m losing my teeth and the liquid pops and catches on fire a lot and I feel like spending hours watching porn naked for hours even though I think this stuff keeps you from getting a hard-on. Hell, i feel like stripping copper for days. I also noticed that when you blow it in a dogs face they freak out. I also left the cap to the bottle open and my little cousin DRANK IT ALL. I couldn’t get her to settle down for nine days. Also, what is vegetable glycerin? What is meth? What is an electronic cigarette? Does anyone take this article seriously? I do and If you want to do drugs, go do them. Hell, did you know that there are other ways to do drugs (LIKE SMOKING, SNORTING, OR EVEN SHOOTING), they have been using those methods for YEARS! I use DMT in electronic cigarettes too, actually I did it while reading this article and it made so much sense I decided to make a whole list of drug infused e-liquids to sell at ALL of those corner stores nobody goes to at night. ;+)

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  • December 21, 2015 at 8:33 pm
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    Lmao i was just asking my friend if itd be possible to dabb liquid acid. Thanks

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  • December 29, 2015 at 5:57 pm
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    how do you mix the ratio of meth to ejuice? and what is the best setting to tweak the mod to? also better be informed if you are about to do something the authorities deem harmful than die doing it stupidly. people give drugs a really bad name!

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    • December 29, 2015 at 6:15 pm
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      And therein lies the problem. If I posted recipes on my site, I’d eventually lose my site. That’s why I stick to being a breadcrumb in the trail. I can’t tell you how to dose your drugs because I’m not medically licensed to do so and the drugs are illegal. All I can do is point out that it’s possible while making the vegetable glycerin, coconut oil, etc available because I can sell that for a commission legally through this site.

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      • April 1, 2016 at 6:56 pm
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        Here here! This was rather entertaining.

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    • April 12, 2016 at 1:59 pm
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      3pin I think you would need the freebase oil for that to work, maybe not. Don’t know if the salt form would work in the glycerin, might get nasty…give it a whirl

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  • February 1, 2016 at 6:04 pm
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    Yall all just sound like a bunch of fiens go vape you all sound like morons arguing on tje internet lmao

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    • April 17, 2016 at 12:34 am
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      Noah you realize that you read the exact same thing as us and your contribution was to criticize us using horrible spelling right? Just a friendly recommendation use spell check next time k ?and 3pin or anyone else interested in a amphetamine juice swim uses a mortar and pestle then stirs it into his juice about a g per 3ml

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  • May 20, 2016 at 7:25 am
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    Hey, I’m Givin a try, if it works it works.

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  • May 26, 2016 at 3:10 pm
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    Just by all of your comments and replys, I think most of the substance’s you all have mentioned have gone to your head… Haha..

    I really needed a good laugh and this site has done that, thanks peeps..

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  • June 3, 2016 at 4:00 pm
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    Drugs could help the world for good and worse. More addicts, less drugs (or drugs of a diminishing quality) = more crime because ya don’t get high. Why not embrace drugs, if theres more drugs, then people have more money, more people are fucked up creating an abundance of jobs in the health care sector. Not to mention crime will be up so insurance places will be employing because of the workload, glaziers/carpenters to replace broken windows and doors, security devices or staff deployed. At the end of the day if I hadn’t had lived the life i chose I COULD be in a far better fiscal state or physical health or social status……………………….
    BUT I have a very intimate knowledge from years of research into the human behaviour and predicting how people are going to act and why. if someone rips me off I can see it coming.

    BECAUSE OF DRUGS AND THE DRUG LIFESTYLE I AM PSYCHOLOGICALLY ENLIGHTED

    I dont think true enlightenment happens until one feels the effects of drugs on your mental state.

    eat a dick

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  • June 3, 2016 at 4:03 pm
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    Oh yeah and can you bring it back to a solid state FROM liquid state?

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  • June 11, 2016 at 11:22 pm
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    Thank you for posting this. I am a parent finding things in my step son’s room such as glycerin? Why would he have that? Then I realized he has a e-cig, but he is failing is classes, comes home late, works ungodly hours and has no money. Recently left home because he did not like the rules. So despite the other comments, thank you for making a parent aware.

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    • February 11, 2017 at 10:44 pm
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      Why not try asking them, as you would any other human. The best relationships are based on trust and communication. Try it! Also, glycerin can be used as a skin moisturizer. It does not make a good sexual lube as it is too sticky. And you dont want to use glycerin for anal sex because glycerin acts as a local irritant to the colin and thus using glycerine as an anal lube, like your son, may cause a bowel movement during anal sex….i guess some people may like that. Your thoughts?

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  • June 18, 2016 at 3:19 pm
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    After i found this article i tried glycerin with my kief didn’t work, searched online and asked a couple headshop how they make cartridges, a close friend said use vapeur extract. used vapeur extract and it worked flawlessly. mixed it with my kief, shatter, bho, and crumble all worked. I said to myself if this works then is it possible other paraphernalia will work? I tried with some other products and it worked.

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  • February 11, 2017 at 10:37 pm
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    I dont think dissolving percocet in vg will work since tylenol is not water soluble…you silly silly goose.

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  • February 11, 2017 at 10:39 pm
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    Also, cannabis does not disolve in glycerin….and the poster prior to mine apparently wasted some kif because of you and you misinformations passes for thoughts. ?

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  • February 13, 2017 at 7:34 pm
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    I’m doing a project on vaping safety. I’m confused by your article. I haven’t investigated yet the risks of PG, just the risks of smoking cigarettes and inhaling small particles. It turns out VG/PG particles are too large to be absorbed into the blood stream, and would become part of the mucus that shuffles its way out of the lungs (if there were a risk of drowning, it would be worse in the shower with thick water vapor everywhere). You’re right that VG and PG become a vapor, but when you refer to the vapor as ‘smoke’ and a ‘smoke effect’ in the next paragraph I became confused as to what about smoking we crave/are getting. Smoke implies combustion, right? Combustion is what we are avoiding. Even if people say “burn” as slang, its use in your article is confusing and I don’t want people to get the wrong idea. Also, if we use 100% PG, there is less vapor than only partial PG; so I don’t see how more PG means more of a “burn” in that scenario. As a fellow vaper I thank you for your article trying to help disseminate truthful information about vaping. From one user/writer to another, it may help the cause to investigate and clarify what slang words technically describe in this article. Thanks for listening.

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    • February 13, 2017 at 7:41 pm
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      The term that’s typically used is throat hit for burn. And making the distinction between evaporation and combustion is important, but it’s just as important to understand that vaporizers are capable of combustion as well. If someone isn’t vaping the substances (i.e. nicotine, THC, CBD) at the correct evaporation point, they’re going to burn the material and still inhale those carcinogens. A ton of information about vaping is very misleading as it’s put out by studies done by the vape industry. Imagine if all studies of the safety and nutrition from cereal were paid for by the cereal industry – there would be public outcry. Also, vape technology has advanced far beyond the simple vape pens we used to have. Here’s an article exploring several 3-in-1 pens that offer a variety of heating options for vaping herbs directly without even needing VG, PG, or any other additive, which I believe is the safest way to do it: http://thoughtforyourpenny.com/2017/01/essential-smoking-vaping-tools-2017/

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  • April 2, 2017 at 6:27 pm
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    What about dissolving CBD paste in PG and then VG after ( 30 PG / 70 VG ) ? Is there any oil in the CBD paste that i should not be vaping / vaporizing ?
    Does the 30 % PG work as good as the expensive Vapeur Extract someone was commenting about ?

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